These are the most beautiful, soft, luxurious men's driving gloves ever. Well worth the price, if we could get the size right and there were no defects. Long story short - I bought these for my uncle to wear when he drives his 1938 Ford Coupe. I thought his upholstery was brown, so I ordered brown. Then I got in his car and realized the upholstery is black/grey tweed, so I promptly re-ordered the black/grey. I had not yet received the first (brown) pair. I knew it would take a long time to ship, since they were coming from Germany, and I'm fine with that. Received both pairs and they're both too small! On the Amazon listing, I ordered size 8/M. I don't know much about glove sizing, but my Uncle is not a big guy so I figured Medium would be good. The gloves are actually marked S/8. And they're small! (they fit me great but I'm female). I'm going to keep one pair for myself and reorder a larger pair, but I'm a bit stumped as to size. The available sizes are: 7.5M, 8M, 8.5M, sold out in 9L, and then 9.5L and 10XL. I think I will go with the 9.5L, unless I can get some direct info from seller.The other problem is that the middle finger on the left hand of the black pair is misshapen. I probably would not have noticed this, but several of us were examining them and trying them on, since they didn't fit Uncle Ray, and my son pointed out the finger. It's baggy and strange. I'm hoping the seller will refund me on this pair and send me another, larger pair. In fact I'll order a pair for my son. These gloves are so yummy, I am willing to put up with a bit of hassle getting them right.I will update when I hear back from seller.