I got these off of amazon and they came 4 days before it said they would. They are pretty good, but after only one trail ride with the butt pad/inside part, my butt hurts. All of my other shorts dont have the butt pad, so I think that I am just not used to having them. Other than that, they are super high quality and super comfortable for walking too. Another plus is that they dont look like bike shorts, so you can wear them without looking like a nerd.